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Another redditor nails it how GRRM flubbed his response to Sad Puppies

Reading George R.R. Martin’s responses to the Sad Puppies situation at the Hugo’s has been incredibly disappointing, for a number of reasons.  I’m glad to see I’m not the only one:

He’s just being dishonest with some of his posts, and I don’t think he quite **gets** the point. He is in fact engaging in “othering” and downplaying the right of certain people to be on the nominations list in the very comments at the very time he is trying to argue it isn’t happening at all. For instance he said that Vox Day “doesn’t deserve” to be on the ballot, not based on the quality of his work, but based on his political opinions and what he might have said at some point in the past.

The issues with the Hugos and Nebulas and preferred treatment of certain people or cliques and bias date back a lot longer: but one needn’t look for “SJW influence” much past 2005-2007, because that is about the timeline they first metastasized in their current radicalized form.

We have writers openly petitioning and writing about excluding others based on their birth race and sex and being embraced by other known authors in what a great idea it is and many in the media at large:

We also had Requires Hate outed last year, a dispenser of “social justice” in the context that “SJW” is being used and stand-in for their ideology unlike any other, that was propped up by Tor and certain people for nominations despite all the past actions mainly due to the writers “diversity”:

And we have a press, like Entertainment Weekly and The Telegraph that blatantly spreads lies without doing any sort of fact checking in favour of ideology with titles like “Hugo Award nominations fall victim to misogynistic, racist voting campaign”: and where have they gotten these “facts” and words to throw around at people without any basis in reality handed down from? They are being used very often nowadays to make someone a “non-person” not even worth talking to or considering their opinions.

We even have a writer of a certain article for Salon titled “Sci-fi’s right-wing backlash”: openly attacking the family of a writer involved with the Sad Puppies campaign:

But yet these actions and people apparently don’t exist according to GRRM? They are made up? His own bias seems to be somewhat clouding his judgment in this regard. If someone doesn’t want to see it, even if it is there in front of them as clear as day, I don’t think people will be able to make them see. And if people engage in their “No Awards” block voting openly, this just further proves the bias against the Sad Puppies and enshrines their arguments.

Here’s the “dinosaur story” that GRRM keeps mentioning by the way. It’s not very long and you can read it quickly and judge yourself:

It won the Nebula Award for Best Short Story and was nominated for Best Short Story in the Hugos.

The one that also ultimately won the Hugo for Best Short Story was “The Water That Falls on You from Nowhere”, both were related to Tor:

Said story doesn’t even have much to do with SciFi and the “hook” that supposedly makes it such isn’t really all that important, it looks more like it was put in to qualify. But it is a short story about a gay man coming out to his traditional Chinese family or “jury bait”.

I know GRRM doesn’t want to believe that these things are being voted on and win because of the ideology or the political opinions of their writers, but for many people it couldn’t be any clearer and shows great similarities to how “Gone Home” for instance won Game of the Year everywhere based on a similar issue it tried to thematize rather than any inherent quality or merit.

More than anything, though, GRRM seemed to miss the point and instead created a series of straw men to argue against.  Sad Puppies hasn’t been about protecting white men & rightwing fiction – their slate is actually much more diverse (in gender, sexual orientation & politics) than the previous offerings.  Sarah Hoyt addresses that in her blog post “Of Science Fiction and Bed Making:”

This is not political. It would be really funny if it were. I have no clue what Larry’s politics are, except I don’t argue with him about much, and from the little I’ve heard, we pretty much agree. I suspect I’m nuttier “don’t tread on me” than he is, but he’s better armed, so…
Brad I’d qualify as soft social-democrat, which only falls under “right wing” in Portugal where “to the right of Lenin” is right wing. Oh, wait, it’s the same in SF/F, isn’t it? Never mind.
The people nominated range from anarchist to socialist and a good number of them honestly are “I have no clue.” This includes two of my personal friends, Kevin J. Anderson and Cedar Sanderson. Heck, even Amanda Green who is arguably one of my closest friends and I have never done a politics comparison. I suspect she’s more statist than I am (she’s more trusting that way) but for the rest, who knows?
That the other side thinks this is a political attack tells you that THEY have been applying a political filter to nominations and votes. Because only someone blinded by a beam in their eye can see the spec in ours.


Found on reddit’s /r/TorInAction: Let me tell you a story (about Sad Puppies)

Let me tell you a story.

On a dark and stormy night, a small clique gained control of what is known as the Hugo Awards (biggest award in Sci-Fi literature) and one of the more influential publishing houses.

Due to the public at large’s lack of knowledge about the voting process, certain writers and directors of certain publishing houses (Tor) were able to ensure that the favored publishers’ books tended to get the awards through a mixture of invitation and bullying. As the publisher maintained undue influence over the medium, potential exposure for both new and old writers that were considered unfit by the ruling class due to political views, ect was quashed. Basically, either Tor wouldn’t work with them or they’d go cheap on the ads…and Tor was the most visible publishing house with the best advertisement reach for sci-fi material. (as I understand it)

After many years, the abyssal beings known by many names including Baen and Independant Publishing (Basically Amazon) frowned on the awards and began allowing writers to circumvent the clique. It was a great success. Interesting and varied stories were selling once again and in grand numbers that were not initially expected.

Not long after, somewhere in the deepest bowels of the abyss, the International Lord of Hate Larry Correia pondered why such badly selling books were getting such inordinate acclaim while excellent and high selling stories were being ignored. When he asked the clique how this can be, they sneered and stated that the voting process was open so surely only the finest stories win the awards. The International Lord of Hate was unconvinced by this argument and made a kind of wager. He argued that if he were to seek out more voters and ultimately sway the awards, the clique would be hateful and reject the situation while calling for the removal of the interlopers and changes to the award process. The clique once again sneered and stated that they’d be unmoved by such an event and, additionally, refused to believe anything of the sort could possibly happen.

The Lord of Hate then devised a very simple plan, known as Sad Puppies, to alert the sci-fi readership of how to participate in the Hugo voting process. That was three years ago.

With each new year more of the nominations are swayed, and with each new result the tears of the clique run nearly as fast as their accusations of vote rigging. The latest vote nearly eliminated Tor from the nominations, and twice nominated one of their most hated adversaries. But not the Lord of Hate, for he stepped back and refused nomination despite not being required in order to expose the clique to more of the abyss’ power. (lol ethics)

This is what they now lay at your feet.

After all, the clique and the SJWs you now face are separate heads of the same hydra. What wounds one, wounds the other. As it is a very stupid hydra with a poor aggro system, it interprets that pain as coming from the latest opponent to garner its focus.